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Called to Build, Called to Endure | Season 9, Episode 7
Guests: Co-Host Andrew Gard, Matt Brown • December 15th, 2025
As pastors and leaders we have to understand that our calling isn’t the same as everyone else’s. Matt Brown, Founder and Lead Pastor of the multisite church Sandals Church, joins Pastors Banning Liebscher and Andrew Gard to unpack the realities of church planting and the challenges of building healthy, sustainable ministry. From raising resources and building strong teams to navigating seasons of disappointment and betrayal, we must remember that Jesus is leading our lives and building His Church.
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Banning Liebscher https://www.instagram.com/thebanning
Andrew Gard https://www.instagram.com/andrewgard
Matt Brown https://www.instagram.com/matthewstephenbrown
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